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Why I skipped the Tanger II opening...

message trafficI suppose in the absence of an approved and built large-scale mixed-use project, the news of the opening of Tanger Outlet at the Arches will garner a great deal of fanfare in the months to come. We knew that there was significant opposition to this project in Deer Park during the planning stages and were asked to come in and help with the fight.  It was frustrating to us, as we did not want to be seen as an organization that is anti-development or anti-growth. But projects like this do give us pause. 

First, let me confess that I have not been to a mall in twenty years, so I am way outside of the mainstream.   I did take an opportunity to drive through Tanger II before the opening and marveled at the rather attractive architecture and some of the public space elements, such as the movie theatre and outdoor plaza.  All of these additions, at least, make the experience more than just a shopping center and for that, the developer should be commended.  I was impressed also to hear they even had Cheap Trick performing (though I am more of a Black Sabbath fan). I remember the last time I was at the mall, in 1988, pop queen Tiffany and LI superstar Mariah Carey were performing in malls, so there is a precedence for musical acts.  I am sure some Long Islanders will be happy that supermodel Carol Alt was there and that, likely, other celebrities and stars will make there way to this location in the future.

This is America and we firmly believe that folks have the right to congregate, shop, and frequent wherever they want.  Having said that, before we rush to judgment at how wonderful this project is, we should ask a few questions: Is Tanger II what Long Island needs? Does Long Island have sufficient retail space? How would Long Island fare if each of these stores were disbursed throughout existing downtowns?  Did the Deer Park community desire this project?  Why did the developer get a tax break? What type of jobs are being offered?  What public benefits were given in exchange for the zoning change?  What is the economic impact to surrounding businesses of this use?  What is the transportation impact of this development and does it choke out more worthy future projects?

Tanger II might have some elements that are an improvement of an outdoor mall, but does this project work as a center and is the public served by this use?    Contractors, understandably, want to build, as we know they need the work.  Town officials fast tracked this project in order to capture tax dollars and economic activity away from the adjacent Heartland project, which is situated in a different Town. That being said, what was puzzling was the use of the Town's IDA to provide tax breaks for the project.  The Town of Babylon has a number of worthy initiatives in downtown Copaigue and Wyandanch and embracing a project like this seems out of character. 

What is disconcerting about these single-use massive outlet centers and regional malls is that they likely have radius clauses in their contracts that would prohibit those very same stores (albeit in smaller versions) from opening in downtowns within close proximity.  This would stop Old Navy and Neiman Marcus from opening in neighboring downtowns in Babylon, Lindenhurst, and Amityville.  Why would this project work differently than in Riverhead, where the economic activity at Tanger I promised to complement the downtown and did anything but. Einstein's definition of insanity, "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results," applies here.

In the end, Tanger II could well be another example of the failed land-use process on Long Island.  Asking these questions may seem like blasphemy for folks who are itching to get to the new Neiman Marcus this weekend or who want even easier access to an Old Navy.  In addition, I am sure some of our friends in the development community will ask why did we not bring these issues up at the hearing and why we stand on the side of the "irrational" civic community.

What's done is done, but just as in your personal life, you examine past behavior and analyze the various successes and failures. We should all take a hard look at how and why this project got built and whether or not another one should be part of Long Island's future.  This project, at worst, could be an unmitigated traffic nightmare or, at best, simply be a slow drain on surrounding downtowns and other existing centers. Time will tell.

The good news in all of this is that you can avoid the traffic at Tanger II and vote with your feet by shopping in one of the many downtowns across Long Island; top it off with dinner at a great restaurant and maybe even a movie.  I am willing to bet that the small businesses in your town would very much appreciate your patronage.

Eric Alexander
Vision Long Island

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Their attorneys have handled Smart Growth projects across Long Island. We thank them for their support.

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Smart Growth Summit Update

The 7th Annual Smart Growth Summit is Coming

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Thursday, November 13th, 2008
8:00am to 3:00pm
at the Melville Marriott

summit1Please join us for the 2008 Smart Growth Summit. This event represents the culmination of six successful Summits and promises to be the greatest yet. Its format includes improved networking opportunities and a variety of informative workshops on the best practices in Smart Growth and land use planning.

The 2008 Smart Growth Summit will focus on the policies, challenges and Smart Growth projects that need to be implemented. It brings together the broadest range of Long Island leaders from community, civic, professional and governmental sectors to educate and formulate strategies to move these policies and projects forward. We need you to be a part of these solutions.

The Summit addresses a range of topics including transportation, clean energy & green building, sewers & infrastructure, codes & regulations, commercial corridor redevelopment, community planning & public process, regional planning, housing & gentrification, downtown revitalization, and projects of regional significance.  The Summit also updates the regional Blueprint for Smart Growth, which was developed from our previous summits. The Blueprint continues to be a platform towards advancing a Smart Growth agenda for Long Island and your participation in the event helps to shape it.

Schedule Announced

8:15-9:45    MORNING PLENARY:

“STATE OF THE TOWNS & VILLAGES”
Ron Stein & Eric Alexander: “Smart Growth Agenda for Long Island”
Hon. Phil Cardinale, Supervisor, Town of Riverhead
Hon. Phil Nolan, Supervisor, Town of Islip
Hon. Steve Bellone, Supervisor, Town of Babylon
Hon. Jon Kaiman, Supervisor, Town of North Hempstead
Hon. John Venditto, Supervisor, Town of Oyster Bay
Hon. Brian Foley, Supervisor, Town of Brookhaven *
Hon. Kate Murray, Supervisor, Town of Hempstead *
Warren Tackenberg, Nassau Village Officials Association
Josh Horton, Suffolk Village Officials Association
Joye Brown, Newsday, Moderator

Affordable Housing in a Changing Market
Shuprotim Bhaumik, Economic Research Associates
Roger Clayman, Long Island Federation of Labor
Peter Elkowitz, LI Housing Partnership,
Marcelle Fischler, New York Times, Moderator

Global Warming & Clean Energy on Long Island     
John Loffenschmidt, Covanta
Gordian Raacke, Renewable Energy LI
Hon. Marc Alessi, Assembly, NYS
Adrian Tuluca, Viridian
Beth Fiteni, Neighborhood Network, Moderator

Sewers & Infrastructure
Hon. Kate Browning, Legislator, Suffolk County
Ron Lupski, Save the Forge River
Marc Herbst, LI Contractors Association*
Mike Kelly, Pulte Homes
Bob Scheiner, H2M Group, Moderator

Downtown Revitalization
Dan Deegan, Forchelli Curto Deegan
Andrea Lohneiss, Empire State Development, NYS
Jim Constantine, Looney Ricks Kiss
Dan Livingston, Livingston Development Group
Tom Pellicane, Canvas Magazine, Moderator

Developments of Regional Significance - Suffolk
Gerry Wolkoff, Heartland
Gene Murphy, Town of Islip
William Mannix, Town of Islip
David Winzelberg, LI Business News, Moderator

Transportation - Transit Oriented Development
Ernest Tollerson, MTA
James McAllister, AKRF
John Burke, Vintage Group
Drew Martin, Rocky Point Civic Association
John McNally, Rauch Foundation, Moderator

Taming the Big Box
Raul Cotilla, Loews
Ed Glackin, King Kullen Grocery Co.
Paul Elliot, Prudential Long Island Commercial
Carol Meschkow, Concerned Citizens of Plainview Old Bethpage
Bruce Migatz, Albanese and Albanese, Moderator
 
Changing Demographics: Diversity on Long Island
Hon. Rick Montano, Legislator, Suffolk County
David Lee, Korean American Outreach Committee
Mohinder Taneja, Nassau County Office of Minority Affairs
Jorge Martinez, LI Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
Tawaun Whitty. Gordon Heights Civic Association, Moderator

Developments of Regional Significance –  Nassau
Scott Rechler, RexCorp – Glen Cove/Lighthouse
Hon. Ralph Suozzi, Mayor, City of Glen Cove
Richard Bivone, Nassau Council of Chambers of Commerce, Moderator

Long Island 2035/LI Sustainability Plan
Gerry Bogaz, NYMTC
Diana Coleman, EOC of Nassau County
Sarah Lansdale, Sustainable Long Island
Michael White, Long Island Regional Planning Council
Ron Stein, Vision Long Island, Moderator

12:30-1:45  LUNCHEON

Hon. Tom Suozzi, County Executive, Nassau
Jim Constantine, Looney Ricks Kiss

Panel: Smart Growth in New York State
Paul Beyer, NYS Director of Smart Growth
Peter Scully, NYS DEC
Karen Rae, NYS DOT*
Peter Fleisher, Empire State Future
John Kominicki, LI Business News, Moderator

Light Imprint Urbanism, Sustainability
Sal Coco, BHA
Alex Latham, ADLIII Architecture

Visioning to Implementation: Getting it Done
Hon. Jack Martins, Mayor, Village of Mineola
Hon. Allan Dorman, Mayor, Village of Islandia
Brenda Prusinowski, Town of Brookhaven
Janice Scherer, Town of Southampton

Land Use & Transportation Coordination
Heather Sporn, NYS DOT
Kate Slevin, Tri-State Transportation Campaign
Bob Eschbacher, VHB Eschbacher
Larry Rosenbloom, Urbitran

Youth Summit – (Coordinated by Dowling College) by invitation only

Civic Summit – by invitation only

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Regional Updates

Shopping for Traffic

trafficThe Tanger Outlets at the Arches outlet center in Deer Park opened on October 23rd to happy hordes of shoppers and rather disgruntled drivers. According to Jennifer Maloney and Chau Lam's article in Newsday, the 800,000 square-foot shopping center bungled traffic for miles and hours. Even with two entrances into the mall, 4,600 parking spaces on site, shuttle service from the Deer Park train station, and Suffolk County police officers helping to direct traffic, the streets were still clogged with cars.

Ed Blumenfeld, president of Blumenfeld Development Group, the mall's Syosset-based developer, said in Newsday's article that "There's been a lot of buzz. It's testing the limits of our traffic mitigation plan, but it'll calm down after the weekend."

According to the article, millions of dollars have already gone into road and traffic improvements. Yet, even with that $10 million on "traffic mitigation projects" like widening roads and the removal of local parking restrictions, the traffic was still snarled. The project has been lauded for its progressive approach to the "mall" and yet Blumenfeld Development Group declined to make a truly progressive leap by providing transportation alternatives, such as a light rail or streetcars to lighten the local traffic burdens.  Road improvements only make it easier for more cars to come through and future developments in the area will only continue to generate more traffic. Until these municipalities look to some other solution than road improvements, this area will remain a polluted, congested quagmire of cars.

The full Newsday article is available here. To have your say on the project, check out David Reich-Hale's article and survey at the Long Island Business News LI Biz Blog.

SCott Rechler Addresses Nassau Council of Chambers of Commerce Breakfast

bivoneThe Nassau Council of Chambers of Commerce held their 24th annual legislative breakfast, with over 700 small business leaders, on October 17th at the Crest Hollow Country Club. In attendance were NYS Senator Dean Skelos and NYPA Chairman Richard Kessel, along with the many small business honorees from nearly 40 communities in Nassau County.

Scott Rechler, Chairman and CEO of RexCorp Realty LLC, attempted to bolster many a quaking business executive with his dedication to "investing in Long Island's future by promoting visionary thinking and a renewed sense of community purpose." At a time of financial crisis, Rechler's speech on Friday, October 19th, was meant to ensure public and private sector leaders and small businesses that Long Island will overcome and that the Lighthouse project can help.

nccc 2"Historically, Long Island has done best in moments of adversity," Rechler said. "We face a housing crisis and high living costs. At this time, we need a clear plan to compete, attract and continue to grow existing business on Long Island. We need to be proactive as a community to weather this economic crisis and become stronger together."

The project is estimated to create "50,000 construction and construction-related jobs for Long Islanders over the build-out period." As it grows, the Lighthouse Development Group expects it to generate an estimated "20,000 permanent jobs along with an additional $70 million in new tax revenues each year." This regional ripple effect is part of Rechler's call for a "regional community" perspective to further "sharing the wealth" from projects on Long Island.

ncccAs the Principal of the Lighthouse Development Group, Rechler faces a dual challenge to ensure that the Lighthouse project serves as a catalyst for regional economic growth and as the guinea pig to encourage other visionary projects. Given that many people now are pulling out of the market rather than investing, the Lighthouse will play a key role in Long Island's economic future.

In addition, Richard Bivone, now past President, turned over leadership to new President Chris Murray. The two vowed to work together for the best interest of small businesses across Nassau County. In a closing speech, Richard Bivone recieved a standing ovation for his 6 years of leadership and his efforts in growing the organization. Vision Long Island is proud to have a partnership with the NCCC and particularly Richard Bivone. We wish him and the organization all the best.

 

Community Updates

Op-ED Urges Huntington Residents To Support Bond Act on November 4th

huntingtonResidents of the Town of Huntington will soon have the chance to vote on an "Open Space" bond renewal. The following is an editorial from Lisa Ott of "Huntington Citizens for Clean Water, Open Space and Parks." Give her article a read, check out the Town's website and then vote on it in November.

On the November ballot, Huntington residents will be asked to renew a $15-million bond issue to preserve open space and upgrade parks. This is a good initiative that will improve the town's quality of life. Voters should mark "yes" on their ballots.

Residents approved a similar bond issue 10 years ago, also for $15 million, which costs the average household $19 a year. The upcoming ballot question would continue that same $19 charge for another decade. The original $15 million paid for the purchase of 218 acres, among them Manor Farm Park in Elwood, Fuchs Pond Preserve in Northport and the Mohlenhoff Property/Breezy Park in Huntington. It also funded upgrades that are under way at the Dix Hills Park ice skating rink and Veterans Park in Northport, which will eventually have a skateboard park and soccer and T-ball fields.

This time, Huntington is setting aside $1 million of the $15 million to fund vaguely defined, energy-saving green projects and equipment. Supervisor Frank Petrone and the town council should make sure these projects benefit the general public. They should proceed in the spirit of the first open space bond, which has done a lot of good at a small cost.


Lisa W. Ott
Huntington Citizens for Clean Water, Open Space and Parks

Action Alerts

Suffolk Community Council Launches Food and Clothing Drive

food drivePartners in Unity is organizing a clothing and food drive to prepare for the cold weather. Clothing items needed include gloves, men's hats, scarves, coats, and other winter items, and food items needed include canned beans and vegetables, rice, pasta, and other nonperishable supplies. Donations can be dropped off in Hauppauge at the Council's Office from 9-5 at 180 Oser Avenue, Suite 850. Call (631) 434-0277 with any questions.

Commerce Bank Boycott

commerceWhile Lake Ronkonkoma residents resign themselves to the fact that Commerce Bank will open its branch next year at their proposed 9/11 memorial site, they have also chosen not to end the resistance. According to Patrick Whittle’s Newsday article from August 10th, members of the Lake Ronkonkoma Civic Organization will boycott Commerce Bank. “Hopefully we can stop this from happening anymore. We can say, ‘Here’s a business that ignored a community,’” said Gregg Freedner, a director of the organization.

The conflict began three years ago, when the owner of a 1.5 wooded acre parcel on Portion Road sold it to Commerce Bank, despite community and Town of Brookhaven plans to preserve the bucolic area for a 9/11 memorial. Community members pleaded with the bank to relocate from the site, but the Town Planning Board approved the construction plans in March, and soon after the bulldozers broke ground. Bank spokeswoman Rebecca Acevedo maintains that the bank worked “closely with the township and the community” in the planning process and will continue to do so in supporting a new plan for the memorial. Freedner and others in the community are duly skeptical of this claim, especially after the bank rejected any alternate bank sites and the Town Planning Board approved the plan, despite community opposition. “It’s a very sore issue in the neighborhood. The government and these corporation combined can really hurt a community.”

Vision's Board of Directors has yet to take a formal position on this matter, yet we firmly believes in the rights of community organizations to fight for good planning, better building design, and proper community outreach.

To boycott the bank, call 1-888-751-9000 and tell Commerce Bank about your plans to boycott. More information can be found on the Civic Association's website.

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Upcoming Events

Dowling College Presents Intergenerational Conference on November 7th

intergenerationalOn Friday, November 7, 2008, Dowling College will host an Intergenerational Conference that will focus on the policies and programs that bring elders and youth together. As more young adults and senior citizens leave Long Island in search of more affordable housing, or are forced into age restricted living environments, the gap between the generations widens, even as they share similar challenges. It is imperative for the region to develop creative ways to facilitate dialogue and collaboration between the generations to overcome these regional challenges such as affordable housing, public transportation, employment, and many others. The conference's workshops will offer solutions to encourage different generations to communicate with one another, care for each other and support public policies that unite across years.

Held at the Fortunoff Hall Ballroom at Dowling's Rudolph Campus in Oakdale from 8am-4pm, the conference includes a range of workshops and presenters, including Ron Stein, Vision's President. The event is sponsored by The Center for Intergeneration Policy and Practice at Dowling College in partnership with Intergenerational Strategies and the Long Island Intergenerational Network. Intergenerational Programs and Policy: From Vision to Practice has been designed by The Center for Intergenerational Policy & Practice at Dowling College, Intergenerational Strategies, and The Long Island Intergenerational Network, to bring together Long Island's community organizations and business community to create new intergenerational programs and promote public policies that meet the needs of all generations. For more information and to register online go to Dowling's website.

LI Alliance for Peaceful Alternatives and UUC at Shelter Rock Present Populist Forum Featuring David Sirota on November 12th

sirotaOn Wednesday, November 12th the Long Island Alliance for Peaceful Alternatives and the Unitarian Universalist Congregation at Shelter Rock will present a forum on "Uprising: An Unauthorized Tour of the Populist Revolt Scaring Wall Street and Washington," featuring writer David Sirota. Sirota is a political journalist, activist, columnist, and a two-time New York Times bestselling author who is widely known for his "tenacious focus on working class economic issues that are often ignored by America's political elites." Come to the Unitarian Universalist Congregation at Shelter Rock, located 48 Shelter Rock Road in Manhasset  at 7:30PM for a dynamic discussion of current events on Wall Street and in Washington and their economic implications for the working class.

The event is co-sponsored by Great Neck SANE/Peace Action, Code Pink LI, LI Veterans for Peace, Pax Christi LI, and the Social Justice Committee of UUCSR. There is a suggested donation of $5. For more information, contact the LI Alliance for Peaceful Alternatives at 516-741-4360 or longislandpeace.org and UUCSR Shelter Rock Forum at 516-627-6560, ext 122.

Directions: From LIE, exit 35 north (from east) or 36 (from west). North 1-1/2 miles on Shelter Rock Rd. Entrance on left by white fence. From Northern Blvd. Go South 1/2 mile on Shelter Rock Rd.  Entrance on right.

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Weekend Planner

1880's Halloween at Bethpage Village Restoration

pumpkin carverThe Old Bethpage Village Restoration is celebrating Halloween early, with a recreation of the holiday as it was celebrated over 120 years ago. The event runs from 10am-4pm Saturday and Sunday and features ghost stories, magic lantern shows, jack-o-lantern carving, and entertaining personalities like a local grave digger at the cemetary.

Admission is $10 for adults and $7 for kids 4-14 and seniors 60 and over. For more information, call 516-572-8400.

Sayville Halloween Boat Burning

vikingKeeing in the Halloween spirit, The Long Island Maritime Museum in West Sayville will be hosting their annual boat burning celebration. The event features the burning of what they call an "unseaworthy wooden vessel, loosely based on the Viking tradition of a nautical burial." In addition to setting large objects on fire, the event also features musical entertainment, food vendors, refreshments, and a boat raffle. Feel free to wear a costume, too!

The Boat Burning festivities kick off at 6pm on Saturday, October 25th. Admission is $5 for those over the age of 12 and free for those under. The Long Island Maritime Museum is located at 86 West Ave., West Sayville. More information is available by calling 631-854-4947.

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SMART GROWTH NEWS

Newsletter Editor: Michelle Dutchen, Communications Director
Contributors: Juliana Roberts, Planning Coordinator; Eric Alexander, Executive Director;
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